Episode 159: Antiracism vs. Compositional Diversity Part 1 of 2

Unlearn week is a yearly program offered at Calvin University through the Center for Intercultural Student Development.  During this week, students, faculty, and the community are invited to educational events and forums to learn and have conversations designed to unlearn biases and promote Biblical antiracism.  The Antioch Podcast team was invited to participate in this event, so buckle your audio seatbelts for this two-hour episode.

Jane Bruin, a friend and occasional guest on the Antioch Podcast is one of the organizers of this program.  At the end of this broadcast, you will hear Jane as she vets questions from the audience that came in during this live event.

Our topic: Antiracism vs. Compositional Diversity – why seeking justice matters to have true unity in Christian spaces.

Let’s go now and listen to this conversation.




The Next Worship: Glorifying God in a Diverse World – Sandra Maria Van Opstal




Jemar Tisby

The Color of Compromise

How to Fight Racism

Episode 158: The Antioch Podcast Retreat – “What We Did, and What We Learned.”

Jesus once asked his followers “Come away with me.  Let us go alone to a quiet place and rest for a while.”  Jesus knew that they needed a break from all they were learning and doing while they followed him.

Everyone needs time to rest, and our team needed this as well.

Our podcast has been around for over five years, endured through some of the more challenging racial issues in recent memory, and our team needed to get some extended time to be together… without the microphones, to check in with one another, be with God, and plan for our future as a now-independent podcast.

Some of you were praying for us.  We welcome your prayers, and appreciate this from our growing community of listeners.

So we wanted to share with you all a bit of what happened during our time away in this episode we are calling “The Antioch Podcast Retreat: What What We Did, and What We Learned.”

Let’s go now and listen to this conversation.


Michigan Mushroom Company


The Mushroom Factory (Detroit)


Zazu Mushrooms



Episode 157: White Christian Nationalism – “The Heretical Gospel of God and Country.”

It is a commonly-repeated story about America. European Christians traveled from Europe – some fleeing persecution – crossing the Great Sea to a Promised Land where they set up a God-glorifying Christian nation from which to bless the world. This retelling of the American story substitutes white Christians for the original chosen people of God in the Old Testament, the Israelites. While some parts of this narrative may contain some truths – after all, some white Christians did come to the New World fleeing persecution – reading scripture in this manner, with White Christians substituted for a second, chosen people of God, is a peculiarly American heresy.

Of all the White Christians I know, I don’t know any who would self-identify as White Christian Nationalists, which makes using this phraseology in conversation about a religion centered around whiteness, patriotism and faith particularly difficult. Nevertheless, for a significant segment of White Christian America misreading scripture as a text that justifies American patriotism and politics that center the concerns of white America is what feels like their religious home. And while many who practice White Christian Nationalism would not themselves support the insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the government on January 6, 2021… this psychological distancing ignores the fact that many of the symbols, signs, and prayers used by these insurrectionists are also spoken and found in their sanctuaries, homes and front lawns.

White Christian Nationism is one belief system that makes talking about Biblical Antiracism complicated for White Christians. Biblical Antiracism challenges the narrative that white Christian Americans created a Divinely-appointed society, which has continued to be blessed by God, in order to bless the world. In the narrative of White Christian Nationalism, the history of racial injustice in America is at best minimized, and at worst overlooked, because it begins to substitute a country, instead of Christ, as the savior of the world. And this world is a world focusing squarely on the prosperity and comfort of its whitest citizens. The narrative of White Christian Nationalism overlooks the sins of individual white people, and groups of white people, who created, participated in, or turned a blind eye to their own sins, including laws that permitted and encouraged racial violence and discrimination. It overlooks or minimizes the current historical moment where racism continues to oppress through laws and institutional policies that use racially-coded, but less overtly-racist, language which continue to perpetuate racial inequality. And the narrative of White Christian Nationalism excuses white people from taking responsibility for dismantling racism, by painting those who attempt to provide corrective education and action as evil, divisive or anti-American.

Let’s be honest: White people, like all people in the world, are sinful people. God calls us to look at our sinful condition, repent, and change, so that we do not keep on sinning. God calls all sinful people to do this, and when there are national sins, God calls nations as well to recognize their sins, repent and change those policies and practices.

Case in point, the ancient nation of Israel, about whom the majority of the Old Testament was written. Through the centuries Israel – God’s actual chosen nation – nevertheless had national sin-habits that brought suffering to the most vulnerable populations in their nation – foreigners and immigrants, widows and orphans, people with incurable diseases and people experiencing poverty. Sometimes Israel’s national sins created the very conditions that resulted in this kind of inequality … and it deeply concerned God… because God cares about those who are crushed in spirit.

Our group of Christian antiracism educators have a conversation about this and more in this episode we are calling “White Christian Nationalism: The Heretical Gospel of God and Country.”

White Christian Nationalism in the United States (session 1)

White Christian Nationalism in the United States (session 2)

What to Do With American Rage, Reginald Smith

A Long History of Affirmative Action – for Whites

Racial Equity Tools: Discussion of Racist Laws and Policies

Our Broke Public Universities: The Chronicle of Higher Education

The Faces of Rage, David Damico

Episode 156: Radical Acts – “Seeing Acts 1-12 in the Rearview Mirror.”

The good doctor Luke, writer of his self-titled gospel on the life of Jesus followed up by writing the sequel commonly referred to as the Acts of the Apostles.  Now it IS true – this book does talk a lot about those early church leaders.  But focusing on the human beings in this story misses the bigger picture of the book of Acts, namely that this is actually a story about the Holy Spirit, the person of the Trinity which Pastor Reggie describes in this episode as the “shyest person of the trinity”.  We are taking this episode to look back at the narrative arc of the first twelve chapters of the book of Acts, to talk about the big themes of this story which among other things, chronicles how the Holy Spirit gave birth to the first, radically inclusive, multiethnic church.

You are not going to want to miss a minute of this conversation. among our group of Christian antiracism educators and friends in this episode we are calling “Seeing Acts 1-12 in the Rearview Mirror.”

Episode 155: Radical Acts – “God Don’t Play.”

Imagine for a moment a people so afraid of their murderous, narcissistic ruler, that all his followers flatter him with praise to ensure that the people they represent in the government get what they need to sustain them. They shower him with acclaim at his speaking events that are one-part stump-speech and one-part rabble-rousing spectacle.

Though it may sound like a story ripped from the headlines of recent years, I assure you it is not. This is the story of the last speech and demise of Herod the Great, recorded in the book of Acts, by the Gospel-writer Luke. What became of this notorious tyrant is the topic of today’s conversation. As you are about to hear, this overlooked story has a lot to tell us about privilege, power, and how God gets to write the final chapter about all earthly rulers … not matter how great they are again.

You are not going to want to miss a minute of this conversation. among our group of Christian antiracism educators and friends in this episode we are calling “God don’t play.”


Manifesto: The Mad Farmer Liberation Front by Wendell Berry

Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts

Bible History.com – Josephus Account of Agrippa’s Death

ABC News: Researchers Diagnose Herod the Great

White Christian Nationalism, Liberation Theology, and Being Reformed – Juan Carmona

Episode 154: Radical Acts – “Free… But Not So Free.”

We have been working our way through the stories told in the book of Acts – a book in the New Testament which chronicles the birth of the early Christian church. For those of you who need to be brought up to speed, the early church is by this time a multiethnic group of believers found throughout the southern part of the Roman Empire, meeting in homes in various cities, often in secret. The reason? Persecution. That’s where today’s story begins. Caesar, the ruler of the Empire, recently discovered that he could boost his ratings by publicly executing Christians. He did it once, executing a member of Jesus’ inner circle – the disciple James. After receiving glowing reviews, he decided to put on an encore performance by arresting another member of the inner circle, the disciple Peter: front-man for the Christian church in Judea. It wasn’t looking good for the church, as the systemic powers of Rome were now turning unfavorably towards the Christian religious minority.

Our group of Christian antiracism educators and friends took a look at this passage and as usual, had a lot to say.


Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts https://www.amazon.com/Acts-Theological-Commentary-Bible-Belief/dp/0664234003/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=willie+Jennings+acts&qid=1619815143&sr=8-2

The New Testament in Antiquity: A Survey of the New Testament Within Its Cultural Contexts

Episode 153: Radical Acts – “Antioch: The First Multiethnic Church.”

The church began as a multiethnic institution. Period. Full stop.

Now if you studied art history like me, you are pretty used to seeing a lot of famous images of Bible stories recreated on canvas showing a lot of white people as the characters in almost all the stories. But that isn’t what church history really looked like, not even a little.

The book of Acts chronicles how the church grew from a sect of Middle-Eastern Judaism to a multiethnic movement that spread to encompass the entire world. And in today’s story, we will see where this multiethnic religion first was organized, in the trading city of Antioch.

The ancient city of Antioch was located in what today is modern-day Syria. This city later was known for being the beginning of the trade route later known as the Silk Road.

During the period of persecution after the stoning of Stephen, a group of Hellenistic Jews fled to Antioch, and started sharing the story of Jesus to anyone who would listen. And people did listen. People who had no connection whatsoever to Judaism. This church was comprised of the multiethnic inhabitants of cosmopolitan Antioch. And it was in Antioch, that believes first were called Christians. The name stuck to this day.

Our multiethnic group of antiracism educators and friends had a great conversation about this amazing, and too-little-known story about the birth of the church – the multiethnic, Spirit-filled church.

Episode 152: Raising Racially-Resilient Children

As the school year begins in the United States, parents are sending their children back to school. Schools, however, are not the only places where children learn. Our homes are places where children learn many important things that shape the rest of their lives. For example, home is the place where most Children still learn about faith. Christianity is more often caught than taught in the home as children watch and join their parents in prayer, scripture reading and conversations about walking with God. Similarly, antiracism is also a topic that is more often caught than taught in families as children watch and join their parents in relationships with others, advocacy, and conversations about race.

In today’s episode of the Antioch Podcast, the members of our team who are parents reflect back on our parenting journeys as we reflect on our own successes, mistakes, and ongoing questions in our attempt at raising our own children to be racially-resilient people.

Let’s go now and listen to this conversation.


Racial Demographic Data from the 2020 US Census

Episode 151: Strength for the Journey – “Replenishment for Your Heart, Soul and Mind.”

We are stepping away from our series to bring you a couple special episodes of the Antioch Podcast, before returning to our series on the book of Acts.

Pursuing racial justice can be exhausting work. Many people have been feeling the strain in a more intense way since the shooting of Michael Brown (the anniversary of which just past a couple weeks ago), an event that in many ways signaled the beginning of what has become the second civil rights movement in the United States. For those of you who have been long-time listeners, this podcast started in part, to illuminate how the scriptural call for all Christians to do justice (including racial justice) is a mandatory way that Christianity is to be lived out individually – and systemically – in a world where churches and institutions are more often concerned with pursuing compositional diversity, as opposed to striving for racial justice.

This is long, slow, taxing work. It can be tiresome. If you pursue this long enough, you will want to give up at times. It is important that those who hear the call to seek Biblical Antiracism find ways to replenish our hearts, souls and minds so that we can continue in the long work of shaping our institutions to look more and more like the beloved community both in composition, and action – where we have policies and personal conviction to love our neighbors as ourselves, seek the welfare of the city, welcome the stranger etc.

In this episode, our team of antiracism educators and friends talk about how we find this kind of sustenance as we have a conversation about our personal self-care practices – developed through experience – as we pursue Biblical antiracism.

Episode 150: Hindsight 2020 – “Our Takeaways from 150 Episodes.”

We are stepping away from our series to bring you this special episode of the Antioch Podcast. This is our 150th episode. At the beginning of the worldwide pandemic, we decided to record an episode a week, instead of twice per month as we had been doing. We mostly did it because all of us suddenly had open schedules with nothing else to do, it seemed… at least for a few weeks. This pandemic wouldn’t interrupt things too long, right? But this decision to record weekly … well, that changed everything.

Most of you listening started listening during the pandemic. You listened through what turned out to be a season where the eyes of the nation were fixed on fighting germs as well as injustice. We aren’t out of this yet, but we are in it together.

So for our 150th episode, our team thought that we would take this moment, to reflect back on the past year, in an episode we’re calling “Hindsight 2020.”

Let’s go now and listen to this conversation.

Episode 149: Radical Acts – “From Others to Brothers.”

In our series, Radical Acts, the birth of the multiethnic church, we pick up the story where we left off in episode 148 where Peter, a Jew, has been invited (so to speak) by a group of armed Romans to bring a message to their military commander, a Roman Centurian named Cornellius. Now I don’t know about you, but it would be the kind of invitation that is hard to pass up … especially if you had just a few years earlier watched the Roman military put your best friend and Rabbi to death. But Peter obeys God, and everything is about to change.


Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts

Episode 148: Radical Acts – “The Holy Spirit and the Yucky Yums.”

Have you ever been asked to eat something you thought was completely disgusting? Just the smell of it, the sight of it, or even just thinking about it makes you get that feeling in your stomach like you were going to get sick. Or maybe you’ve had the opposite experience where you were eating, and someone you cared about started making comments about your food being gross.

In our series, Radical Acts, we have been looking at the stories in the Bible leading up to the birth of the multiethnic church… and today’s story is all about food. The Apostle Peter, is asked by God to think about eating something he had been raised to believe was disgusting… and he was brought up to believe that the people who made that kind of food were disgusting as well. But here was God, telling him not just to eat their food, but to bring the gospel to them … in their own home, even though they were the kind of people who literally put Jesus to death. It is a lot to stomach – pun intended.

Our team of antiracism educators and friends had a lot to say about this with our usual brand of theology and humor.



Episode Art: Mark VanderHeide

Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts

Episode 147: Laura Pritchard – “Black Leader/Multiethnic Church.”

Today we are stepping away from our series on the book of Acts to hear the story of Laura Pritchard.  Laura was one of the first African-American leaders at Madison Church, formerly known as Madison Square Church where she served first as a volunteer, and later oversaw youth ministries, outreach, and led worship.  Madison Church is a 100-year old multiethnic church in Grand Rapids, Michigan.  In 2020 Laura left her employment at Madison to be the first African-American missionary in the Christian Reformed Church, called by the denomination to Monrovia, Liberia, where she and her husband do ministry in partnership with Providence Baptist church.  Interestingly, Providence Baptist Church is the church founded by Lot Carey and other Black Americans who left the United States in 1822 to create a colony for free Black people back in Africa.

Before leaving for the mission field, Laura took pains to leave Madison Church well.  One of the ways Laura had served Madison was in starting an antiracism group, known as MART. MART is the acronym that stands for Madison’s Anti-Racism Team.  MART is an official advisory committee to Madison’s council of elders and deacons, who govern the church.  As she was preparing to leave, Laura took an evening to share her story with MART to encourage the team in their work.  In this episode, we will hear this recording of Laura’s story from February 2020.

Episode 146: Radical Acts – “Named.”

As we continue our antiracist reading of the book of Acts, the narrative spotlight now swings from Paul back to Peter, the disciple of Jesus leading the church in exile. We find Peter, now walking among those believed to be of lesser-importance in Jewish culture: a paralyzed man, a group of impoverished widows, a dead woman, and a tanner – whose vocation necessitates that he routinely handle stinking death flesh. Peter centers those on the margins, and in so doing, literally re-enacts these miracles now in the name of Jesus. And he does so in a culturally-intelligent manner, as we are about to see.

Our multiethnic group of antiracism educators and friends had another lively conversation about race, faith, and power as we read scripture together, as you are about to hear.

Let’s go now, and listen to this conversation.


Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts

You Know My Name – Tasha Cobbs Leonard

Episode 145: White Work – “Understanding Whiteness and Rightness.”

We are taking a momentary break from our Radical Acts series to bring you the audio of the most recent White Work live event put on by the Antioch Podcast and the Office of Race Relations for the Christian Reformed Church of North America.
In this episode, Reggie and Michelle cohost a panel of white Christians who have been on their own antiracism journeys, asking them questions about their perspectives on how white cultural norms govern institutions – often having the effect of silencing voices of people of color, how faith has affected their antiracism journeys, as well as a deep dive into what it means to center whiteness … and perhaps what to do about it.

As usual, these conversations went in a vulnerable direction.

Episode 144: Radical Acts – “Giving Saul the Side-Eye.”

Have you ever had someone flip on you? You know, one day they believe something so strongly, maybe so strongly that they argue about it all the time with anyone who holds a different viewpoint? Then you don’t see that person for a bit and when they come back, they are changed. They had a conversion! You can’t believe what they are saying! The kinds of people they used to argue with – now they sound just like them! It’s unbelievable. You wonder, seriously, if aliens have taken over their body because they are not the person they used to be.
Enter Saul, stage left. The man who used to be a theological bounty hunter, the man who rounded up Jesus followers and had them arrested and even killed … he now is playing for the other team, and going hard after the people who just a little while ago had sanctioned HIM to persecute the people he now is defending.

Is this too good to be true? And if it is, is this guy reliable? Mentally, spiritually? What makes a guy flip like this? Maybe he changed overnight, but those who had been long-haulers for the Jesus Way needed to see if this guy is for real … and that kind of trust can’t be earned overnight. If only he would shut up a second and stop making trouble wherever he goes…
We are going to talk about this story from Acts 9 in this episode, turning our sights on this story from scripture with our regular group of Christian antiracism educators and friends for this episode we are calling “Giving Saul the Side-Eye.”

Let’s go now, and listen to this conversation.


Julia (NBC television series 1968-1971)

Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts https://www.amazon.com/Acts-Theological-Commentary-Bible-Belief/dp/0664234003/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=willie+Jennings+acts&qid=1619815143&sr=8-2

Episode 143: Radical Acts – “Brash, Blind and Brave.”

Remember back a few episodes when we met this guy named Saul who held the coats of the people who wanted to murder Stephen? This episode is about him. He has been out trying to hunt down members of the Jesus Way (known as “the Way”) to kill or capture them. Not a nice guy. God deals with him in a powerful way, but not the way you would expect … or maybe you would. I’ll let you decide.

As is our usual practice, our multiethnic team of Christian antiracism educators and friends take our various antiracism lenses to the text, to tell the story of scripture in marvelous complexity.

Let’s go now, and listen to this conversation.


Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts https://www.amazon.com/Acts-Theological-Commentary-Bible-Belief/dp/0664234003/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=willie+Jennings+acts&qid=1619815143&sr=8-2

Episode 142 – “Breaking Barriers.”

For those of you who may be new to the podcast, we are a multi-racial group of Christian friends who take an hour each episode to have a conversation about race and faith. In the past few months, we have been doing a deep dive into scripture, to look at the Biblical precedent undergirding Christian antiracism efforts. We have been focusing on the book of Acts, in this series we’ve been calling “Radical Acts: The birth of the multiethnic church.”

So, in today’s episode, we’ve come to the narrative from scripture commonly referred to as “Phillip and the Ethiopian Eunuch.” To set the scene, the early church by this time was just beginning to expand its membership to include outsiders to Judaism – Hellenistic Jews and Samaritans. This act would have been perceived as radical by most Jewish people who had been raised from birth to think of themselves as separate and superior to both of these groups. But these two groups also occupied spaces adjacent to Judaism, which meant that while they may have been warry of one another, they also had practice accommodating one another to a degree.

But God was about to call the church to include people who had increasingly little knowledge of Jewish ethnic or religious practice. In today’s story, Phillip, himself a cultural outsider to Judaism, was beginning to be recognized as the leader of the Jesus way in Samaria. Phillip was making a name for himself by bringing the gospel to the residents of Samaria – a people whose jewish ancestors had intermarried with various tribal groups in centuries past, and now were looked down on by 1st Century Jews for their mixed-blood heritage and watered-down Jewish dietary and religious traditions. Phillip was about to be sent by God from Samaria into the wilderness, along a Roman road that went from Jerusalem to Gaza … where he would meet an Ethiopian governmental official on his way back to Africa from the city of God.

As usual, our team had a lot to say about this, theologically and personally.

Let’s go now, and listen to this conversation.


Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts https://www.amazon.com/Acts-Theological-Commentary-Bible-Belief/dp/0664234003/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=willie+Jennings+acts&qid=1619815143&sr=8-2

Episode 141: Radical Acts – “What’s Our Price?”

In today’s installment of the Antioch Podcast we continue our series “Radical Acts” the story of the birth of the multiethnic church. In today’s episode, we enter the story as the followers of Jesus flee persecution from Jews. They find shelter among the “half-Jewish” residents of Samaria, whom Jews saw as a lower-caste people. These followers of Jesus begin to reckon with how to reestablish themselves as a movement in this decidedly non-Jewish space, and we watch as a new leader emerges named Phillip, himself an ethic outsider to Judaism. As always, we bring our antiracist lens to our reading of scripture, as we talk about this text.


Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts

Episode 140: Radical Acts – “The Lost Cause of the Hellenistic Jews.”

In today’s episode we continue our series “Radical Acts” the story of the birth of the multiethnic church.  Last episode we left off with the story of Stephen, the Hellenistic Jew.  Stephen was an “ethnic outsider” to the predominantly ethnically Jewish early church, and once in leadership, he went to share the story of Jesus to his own people – other Hellenistic Jews.

But the story of Jesus challenged the norms of the leaders of the Hellenistic Jews, who saw themselves as exceptional members of their ethnic community who in many ways were “more Jewish than the Jewish Jews” – which was what they believed marked them as insiders within Judaism, despite their obvious differences.  As Libby said last episode, Stephen’s sermon laid out that there was a pattern of the people of God getting messages – from God – and not listening to them.  And when he shared that this story included the Hellenistic Jewish people not following the Holy Spirit in the present day, the people dragged him out and put him to death.

In today’s episode, we take a closer look at the content of Stephen’s sermon, as it was recorded in full in Acts 8.  We look at how the sin condition of the people of God in the first Century is very much like the sin condition of people today, in this episode we are calling “The Lost Cause of the Hellenistic Jews.”

Before we get started, observant listeners may hear the periodic chirping of an unreachable smoke detector whose battery was dying in today’s recording.  Our apologies.  This is the recording, and not the smoke detector in your house.


Episode 139: Radical Acts – “The Story of Stephen.”

In today’s episode we continue our series “Radical Acts” the story of the birth of the multiethnic church. In today’s installment, we look at the story of Stephen, one of the newly-appointed leaders of the early church. Stephen was a Hellenistic Jew, which in our previous episode we pointed out, meant that he was an ethnic minority in the newly-forming church. The church at this time still considered itself connected to Judaism, but most Jewish leaders were having difficulty perceiving that Jesus was the fulfillment of the prophesies and traditions they had kept for over a thousand years. It is understandably difficult for any institution to adapt to rapid change, and first-century Judaism was no exception.

The story of Stephen is a case in point in looking at how institutions sometimes respond to those who advocate for change. In this episode, we will look at what happened to Stephen, the ethnic outsider, when he begins to share the story of Jesus among the religious leaders of the Hellenistic Jews. Remember, these particular religious leaders were ethnic outsiders to Judaism like himself, who – in spite of their ethnic, cultural and even linguistic differences – still held tightly to the traditional practices and teachings of their Jewish heritage. These leaders emphasized being exceptional members of their institution, and saw Stephen and his message as a threat to the space they had carved out for themselves within the institution of Judaism. As you can imagine, there were fireworks… but don’t take my word for it. Hear it from our team.

Let’s go now and listen to this conversation.




Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts

The Stoning of Sorayah M.

Episode 138: Radical Acts – “The Choosing of the Seven.”

In today’s episode we return to our series “Radical Acts” the story of the multiethnic church. We will begin with a little-known story referred to as “the choosing of the seven.” This is a story about how the early church dealt with ethnic divisions, economic injustice, and the use of systemic power to address these concerns. So buckle your theological seatbelts! We are going on a ride!

Let’s go now and listen to this conversation.


Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts

The Dance of the Dissident Daughter, Sue Monk Kidd

See No Stranger, Valarie Kaur

Reaching Out, Henri Nouwen

The Gifts of Imperfection, Brené Brown

Episode 137: An Antioch Encore – “Antiracist Inspiration.”

Before we start today’s episode, on behalf of the Antioch Podcast team, I want to thank all of our listeners. The annual Stand Against Racism episode “White Work” has been downloaded and listened to hundreds of times more than any of our previous episodes. We have heard in comments from many of you that you want to hear more episodes like this, and so stay tuned. There will be another live event, White Work 2.0, coming in June, details coming soon.

To all of our new listeners, welcome to the Antioch Podcast, where every week you will get the opportunity to listen in on our multiethnic group of Christian antiracism educators and friends as we have a conversation about Biblical antiracism. When all of us are here, we have two team members who identify as white, two team members who identify as black, and two team members who identify as “middle voices” to capture a limited spectrum of the voices who make up the American racial caste system we all inhabit. No other podcast that we know of talks about faith and race with such a diverse team, and we welcome you to listen in.

Now to our long-time listeners, thank you. Thank you for listening when we were starting out and were small. Thank you for listening when we were finding our voice as we started out, for some of you going back to 2016 when Barack Obama was the president. We didn’t see what was coming, what turned out to be the racial re-awakening that continues to blossom across the United States and in post-colonial spaces all across the globe. As this re-awakening sparked conversations, dialogue and intense emotions in our churches and religious institutions, you listened. As the years continued, we saw that you listened – often more intently – following racial incidents that punctuated the new cycles of the past five years. Thank you for trusting us to be a place that you went to hear honest, thoughtful Christian conversations during these impassioned moments in our nation.

So today, we are going to bring you an Antioch encore, an episode from our archives. For a bit of context, this is an episode from this past fall. We were entering into the winter holidays during the pandemic. The events of the summer of 2020 were still very much on our minds, and we took a moment, in this episode we called “Antiracist Inspiration” to recall the people who inspired us to strive for racial justice during this trying time.

Episode 136: Radical Acts – “Gamaliel the Moderate.”

In today’s episode, we resume our series “Radical Acts”, the story of how the church grew from a monoethnic Jewish sect to a multiethnic religion encompassing the known world.  Today, we have a conversation about the persecution of the early church by leaders of the powerful religious establishment of the day.  To provide a bit of context, followers of Jesus were not yet seen as a separate religion by the Jewish leaders at this point in the story of the early church.  Our conversation centers on one of the Jewish leaders, a Pharisee named Gamaliel, and the speech he gave about how the religious authorities should use their power.  As always, the next hour will be filled with thoughtful commentary, vulnerable storytelling, and end with some challenging ideas.

Let’s go now and listen to this conversation.



Willie Jennings Commentary on Acts

All One Body: Three queer pastors address the question: What does it look like to have a flourishing church and to share the abundant life?



Episode 135: WHITE WORK – “Antiracism Journeys of White People.”

We are stepping away from our regular series on the book of Acts to bring you the audio from our latest live event, White Work: A Conversation About the Antiracism Journeys of White People. This 90-minute live webinar was recorded on Friday, April 23rd in partnership between the Antioch Podcast and Calvin University, the Christian Reformed Church of North America, and the Grand Rapids chapter of the YWCA. This particular virtual event was the regional 2021 STAND AGAINST RACISM event for the greater Grand Rapids area. STAND AGAINST RACISM events are hosted by the YWCA every year around this time, and it was an honor for the Antioch Podcast Team, and our guests (who have each appeared on the podcast before) to be included in this year’s virtual event.

Let’s go now and listen to this conversation.


Bell Hooks “All About Love.”

Peter Cha – “Redeeming our Racialized Identities.”

John Biewen SEEING WHITE podcast series

John Biewen SEEING WHITE Ted talk

Willie Jennings WIKIPEDIA

Willie Jennings – The Christian Imagination: Theology and the Origins of Race

Willie Jennings: European Christian Missionaries and Their False Sense of Progress

CORR (Congregations Organizing for Racial Reconciliation) – Race Caucusing and Understanding Racism workshops

Understanding Gaslighting

How Gaslighting Got Its Name

Me and White Supremacy – Layla Saad

Caste by Isabel Wilkerson

Examples of churches with regular, strong, antiracist preaching:

Jemar Tisby: How to Fight Racism: Courageous Christianity and the Journey Toward Racial Justice

The Racial Healing Handbook: Practical Activities to Help You Challenge Privilege, Confront Systemic Racism & Engage in Collective Healing by Anneliese A. Singh PhD, LPC